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Bhathiya Senanayake

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Yes, you are. First, your examples are not true. Second, government, especially anti-religious communist governments, have killed many more people than all religions lumped together.

“And whether the holocaust was based in Christianity or Hitler’s twisted paganist beliefs, the fact remains that Hitler and the German Nazi Party gained political power and widespread popular support in Germany by using Christianity in their propaganda.”

Says you. History tells me that Christians resisted Hitler.

“The swastika, after all, is a version of the Christian cross.”

Well, after all, it’s really not….seeing as the American Indians had a swastica in pre-European times, and India as well.

Your quickness to spout untruths about Christianity reveal your agenda.

First off, I do find DC guy’s remark more genuine, not because I agree with it, but because as a non-Muslim, he did not try to feign the knowledge that suicide bombers were disobeying the Quran. His thesis was, I’m not a Muslim, so a Muslim would know better than me, and I’ll leave it to them to sort it out. You pretended to know more about Christianity than the “Christian Right”. You claimed that the Christian Right make un-Christian statements when you are not a Christian. (if you would like to dispute that, go ahead, right after you save yourself from yourself). And then to go and lump all conservative christians in with abortion bombers and doctor murderers? How offensive! To mention that in the same group as those who have objections to filling certain prescriptions and who “protest” as if “protesting a hospice” is somehow in the same category as murder! You are outrageous! I know you will deny this, and say “no, no, no” but you are the one that put them in the same sentence, pal. And that is ridiculous. So I guess, again, my original point was don’t criticize conservative christians if you don’t share their faith. They don’t (and shouldn’t) care what YOUR opinion is on THEIR faith. And DC Guy’s remark was more genuine because, while I don’t AGREE with all of it, at least he wasn’t pretending to know more about a faith than the suicide bombers who practice it.

And I’m sorry for it.

You, however, have been consistently hostile in your remarks to me and unwilling to actually engage me in an intellectually honest and friendly discussion.

You’ve also stated that you think THIS is more genuine than what I’ve been saying:

Ironically, mostly secularists make this “Islam is peaceful” argument. Most Christians I know think that is BS, and that it is a murderous religion just as they have demonstrated to us that it is.

I nit-picked the word “many” when I responded, because I deliberately choice to avoid touching on his “most”.

You really think that “most” Christians think Islam is a murderous religion? Do you agree with that? Is Islam any more “murderous” than Christianity? You really think that statements like these are more genuine than what I’ve said?

“Lord help me from your followers” is a freakin bumper sticker slogan. And I’ve seen it on many cars, even on ones with the “Jesus fish” on them. I’ve heard friends say it casually in conversation when discussing some of the comments and attitudes I’ve described above (and below). And yes, even Christian friends of several denominations — Orthodox, Catholic, and various flavors of Protestants. You might be surprised to learn that one of these people was studying religion and hoped to enter the seminary.

Most common-sense, mainstream Christians are upset with, ashamed of, and scared of extremist fundamentalist Christians who somehow are led to believe that they are being true to their faith when they do things like force schools to teach discredited hypothesis in science class, bomb abortion clinics, murder doctors, refuse to fill prescriptions at pharmacies, suppress the publication of scientific research, protest at hospices, protest at funerals (look up Fred Phelps sometime), etc.

I’ve never heard things like “most Christians think Islam is a murderous religion” and “everything I needed to know about Islam I learned on 9/11″ from an atheist or agnostic. Or from a Buddhist or Jewish person. Or from a moderate-to-liberal Christian. I’ve only heard ignorant, racist rhetoric like that come from right-wing conservative Christian extremists.

“Lord save me from your followers” says absolutely nothing about me — except that I’m just as upset, afraid, and ashamed that in 2006, after so much intellectual and technological advancement, there are still some people who are so ignorant, so wrongheaded, so violent, and so bigoted, that they determined to keep this country from making any progress.

If you’re curious, I suggest you check out Street Prophets. You might be surprised to learn that there is a very active and devout Christian Left and Christian Moderate who are tired of Chrisitianity being hijacked and defamed by a fraction of the Christian population causing a great deal of harm.

There’s a reason that some on the left have come to call the most extreme right-wing conservative Christian activists the “American Taliban”. The parallels are frightening.

As for DC Guy’ comments, I think “many” would also refer to the muslims who took to the streets in Palestine and elsewhere on 9-11 celebrating the muder of Americans, right? I respect what he said. Although I don’t agree with all of it, at least he wasn’t making a statement of what “true Muslims” SHOULD believe and telling THEM how the Koran should dictate their lives. Therefore I find his commentary on Islam to at least be more genuine than yours on Christianity.

And DC Guy: What you wrote is frankly disgusting. Islam is, behind Christianity, the second largest religion in the world. Most Muslims are very peaceful.

The small handful of extremist fundamentalists causing all the problems in the Middle East are NOT representative of their faith.

Just look at your own words: “I have no idea what Muslims truly believe…the only thing I really know is that many of them believe in murdering Americans.”

You conveniently use the word “many” as a vague quantifier. Four people are “many”. A few thousand people are “many”. But when taken in proportion to the billion and a half (give or take) Muslims in the world, you’re really talking about a very miniscule proportion of the population causing a great deal of harm.